Ilya Sutskever says 2020–2025 was the age of scaling and research is back
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On Dwarkesh Podcast, diagnosed 2020 to 2025 as the age of scaling and said we are now back in the age of research, just with big computers. Named generalization as the key bottleneck and gave an AGI timeline of 5–20 years
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The shift from the age of scaling to the age of research became the dominant frame of 2026 discourse
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